21ST MAY - FUTURE PLAN OF ACTION
A meeting was held at the Calcutta National Medical College today afternoon involving representatives from all the colleges assembled there. The following plans of action were passed there :-
- A team will be sent to the Chief Minister of West Bengal to request for an appointment with him in order to know about his viewpoints on this issue.
- The venue of hunger strike may be shifted to Calcutta Medical College.
- The all-India strike called by the IMA on the 25th of May will be supported.
- A mass rally named "Kolkata Chalo" featuring students from every corner of the state and even from outside the state, their guardians and parents and the general public will take place. The tentative date of the rally is the 27th of May, but that will be finalised in a meeting on the 25th of May at Calcutta Medical College.
posted by YOUTH FOR EQUALITY (WEST BENGAL CHAPTER) at 5/21/2006 07:27:00 AM
12 Comments:
Thanks for giving the information.
keep it up guys and keep giving these vital informations.
i would life yfewb to get celebs like the popular bangla bands to get involved. as they are a popular medium their comments in favour of our movement can attract more media attention.
Good work being done..keep it up.Stay united and achieve your goal.
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Whenever the issue of reservation comes up for public debate, the entire Dalit and backward community is painted as devoid of any merit without caring about the fact that a majority of them survive without reservation.
On the other hand, the debate declares the so-called upper castes as meritorious. Therefore at this juncture when the debate on reservation is rife, let us gauge merit on both sides.
The merit of upper castes can be evaluated by assessing their performance on the basis of the traditional social structure. Looking at history the Varnas-Brahman, Kshatriya and Vaishyas were assigned with particular functions.
The Brahman had the privilege of teaching, the Kshatriya of protecting all creatures and the Vaishya living by commerce.
The Dalits could ask the Brahmans if they were so meritorious why then half of the country's population is illiterate.
If the Kshatriyas were so meritorious then why could they not defend our borders? The Shaka, Huns, Tartars, Mughals, Dutch, British etc. all defeated them and subjugated us.
Similarly, if the Vaishyas were so meritorious then why is trade and commerce of India in shambles?
In the same vein, if Arjuna of Mahabharata was so meritorious then why did Dronacharya demand Eklavya's thumb.
In contemporary times, look at the low Human Develop Index (HDI). India is placed at 127 in the group of 174 countries.
In the Corruption Perception Index for the year 2004, India ranked 90 in the group of 146 countries (Transparency International India report 2004). Above all, the external debt of India is at a whopping Rs 5,11,861 crore (Economic Survey 2003-4: p.128).
If meritorious economists and administrators are managing the affairs of the country without any reservation, why are we so economically poor?
Why are farmers committing suicide as if it is rural India's ritual? Why do we have hundreds and thousands of legal cases pending at higher levels of our meritorious judiciary?
Science and technology is considered the realm of super specialty and hence kept out of the bounds of reservation in India.
In this regard, Professor Nian Chai Liu and his colleagues at the Shanghai Jio Tong University in China spent two years collating and analyzing the output of 2000 universities worldwide and published their results by ranking 500 universities.
Only three universities/ institutions from India figured in the top 500 -- The Indian Institute of Sciences at 260 and the Indian Institutes of Technology at Kharagpur and Delhi, respectively at 459 and 460.
IIT Madras, Kanpur, Mumbai and Roorkee did not figure at all and of course there is no reservation for OBCs yet at these centres for learning.
There is something intriguing in the relationship between merit, commitment and contributing to a nation as seen by reservation bashers.
Why is that career becomes more important than service to nation to many IITians and IIMians, who wait to go abroad even before they pass out?
Let us look at the merit of the doctors working in the most prestigious hospitals of the country.
If the Indian doctors and medical specialists are so meritorious than why is that most of the VVIPs run away to foreign countries at the simplest of illnesses.
Even the former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee, an ardent supporter of Swadeshi had to call an NRI orthopedic surgeon for his knee operation.
Further, is it not logical to evaluate the merit of the professionals passing out from the various private universities, engineering, medical and management colleges where a seat can be bought for a few lakh rupees?
There is no reservation in sports even then a nation of over a billion has not been able to produce a single individual gold medalist in Olympics.
Similarly is it really a case of meritocracy that all the progenies of film stars are given a chance to act and sing in the film industry even though they do not have any experience?
Are these cases of merit or pedigree reservation? The answer is self-evident, as most of them have been one-film wonders.
But the fact remains that most of them could reach there just because of their pedigree.
A fact often neglected. We can asses the merit of the private sector by the contribution it makes to the world export market; it is just a trickle, just 0.7%. But still, it beats my imagination why the same private sector is vehemently opposed to reservation, has been demanding a level playing field for itself with the onset of the process of liberalization.
How can even then the private sector boast of its efficiency and merit? If the Indian industries are so meritocratic, why is it that they have not produced a single brand or item which can be internationally prescribed or has become an international commodity?
What right do industrialists of today have to call themselves meritorious when most of the owners of established business houses have inherited their business from their parents?
None of the top industrialists is a first generation industrialist.
They might have expanded the business but they could do so because they belong to a certain pedigree only. According to the Ministry of Company Affairs (MCA), 122 vanishing Companies have run away with Rs 838 crore of public money.
That is why a number of social scientists have argued that the rewards in the educational and economic system are not based on merit.
The educational and occupational attainments are related to family background and a number of circumstantial parameters rather than talent and ability.
That is why people with the same educational qualification do not get the same type of jobs and those in the same jobs do not get equal remuneration.
count me in....and keep it going, the country's future is at stake....
mineguruji said...
I am posting a article i found at the net which will enlighten the doctors and make them realize that it is better to be flexible.
Bahujans ready for street battle
OUR CORRESPONDENT
Bangalore: Upper caste medical college students, who have grown fat on our sweat and blood, have come to the street to fight our human rights (reservations).
Their opposition to reservations to Backward Castes in higher education remind us the 1991 violent anti-Mandal war and violence launched by the same well-fed forces in Delhi.
Editor’s house attacked: Our Editor had just then shifted to Delhi, taken up a rented flat in Vasant Vihar and started publishing DV when Prime Minister V.P. Singh suddenly announced implementation of the Mandal Commission Report. That triggered student violence. It began in Delhi University, and spread to JNU where the Dalit students became the target.
Though Mandal report had nothing to do with Dalits but only BCs, the victims of upper caste violence were the Dalits— not BCs.
Four JNU Dalit students had taken shelter in his flat and that made the upper caste students to attack the Editor’s house. Doors were broken open, and DV and books were thrown out.
The Editor was not in the flat. When he came in the night, doors were wide open and the upper caste neighbours were enjoying his agony.
“National” newspapers, however, put out false reports, a self-immolation was staged by pushing a BC boy into a fire lit opposite the All-India Inst. of Medical Sciences junction.
There was curfew. The whole of Delhi was forcibly closed down.
Dalits defend Mandal:
The upper castes were on the rampage. The Central Govt. itself became helpless. The artificially manufactured upper caste agitation brought down the V.P. Singh Govt. itself.
And in disgust and sheer helplessness, the Editor wound up his office after suffering over Rs. 1 lakh loss and went back to Bangalore as he could not bring out DV which was burnt in the JNU Campus.
The beauty of the whole drama was though the Mandal was to benefit the BCs they only attacked the Dalits at the instigation of upper castes.
But it was the Dalits who fought back and defended the Mandal report. It was the Dalits who suffered for the BCs.
Hate as staple food:
The BCs were sleeping. The vigilant and cunning Brahminical people took advantage of the BC weakness and made BCs to attack Dalits. And thus they succeeded in making brothers fight brothers.
In the latest anti-BC agitation by the upper caste boys and girls, once again the BCs are mum.
Instead of holding rallies in support of Arjun Singh and taking the upper caste boys head on, there is total silence on the part of BCs as this is written. We want to impress upon the BCs that they cannot win their human rights without fighting, suffering, dying and sacrificing.
Dalits will definitely come in support of BCs though BCs never supported us in our struggle.
India’s road to social justice is only through caste war. The upper castes hate us only because of our caste. Such a caste hatred is centuries old.
In spite of Western education they continue to live in their little world where their staple food is hate. So we cannot expect them to change.
In fact the more educated are more aggressive and more violent.
BCs have to get ready for the caste war and the Dalits will be ever ready to support them. The upper castes have to be confronted and countered.
Both in population and our physical strength, we can finish them.
Justice and Truth are on our side. And we have nothing to fear. What we lack is imagination, proper strategies and tactics.
In the coming days there will be more violence and we should be ready for street battles
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/pvt-sector-has-2-yrs-for-quota-centre/11099-3.html
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dear "mineguruji"
To present an unbiased view from both sides, I have left your comments untouched. To show that we really care for our nation and not some high caste or low caste individuals who are still living in the medieval age, I felt it was best to let INDIA decide what's good and what is bad. Hope you will agree with me on that single point at least. If u think that the initial thought of deletion shows that i am biased, i plead guilty to being a normal human being with normal emotions and apologise for not being a mahatma like you!!
Dear youth for equality,
i appreciate that atleast you guys are sane enough to understand the voice of the opposition has to be listened.
Well, we are also listening to your arguments and many of these are well formed and informed opinions.
But, the major problem is that the media, which is unfortunately biased has not able to create a conducive debate and has tried to be more rhetorical than authentic as if it is fighting your battle rather than you guys.
Well, the way forward is to sit and discuss the matter but you can neither browbeat the government neither the backward castes.
It is agreed that incereasing the seats will put pressure on the already fragile education system but even than dont you think it will benefit thousands of your bretheren, who are backward caste. Even the general category seats will increase.
And i must also say sirs, that CASTE is a reality you can not wish away just by saying now that we dont believe in casteism.
Why do you guys suddenly feel that there should be no caste when ffor last hundred years there was no such demands.
Anyway thanks for being balanced as it very difficult to be so in such hyper times. Had the Indian media shown some sense, we might have been able to sit together and find a solution.
But, it now appears that the twains shall never meet.
Dear sirs/madams/friends/brothers/sisters
Reservation- is a privillege/help and NOT RIGTH AT ALL
I am an Indian and so I want to fulfill my responsibilities of an Indian. So, I joined your rally both on Saturday and Sunday and after mind-boggling with hundreds of my friends, relatives, elder people etc. I have worked on to find out the demands that people are really looking for. I hope that you poeple will really read my points, discuss them and wil try to work on these since these have been supported by hundreds of people and these are really good. I am very much sure that you will not be able to turn down even a single suggestion.
I request you to please forward the suggestions to all doctors who are supporting our movement, members of Youth For Equality etc.because we are really short of time.
Praying to God to make yours movement a success.
JAI HIND
RESERVATION- A CURSE – A CRIME AGAINST INTELLIGENCE AND TALENT
Please make the demand that the following things should be done by the Government before passing of any bill:
1. A Review Committee to assess the impact of exisitng quota. Also, since initially the quota for SC/ST was introduced for 10 years then why is it continuing even after 60 years and thus it should be scrapped. And also if it has done no good even after 60 years then why is it continuing and if it has served its purpose then also there is no logic in continuing it. Also, the reasons should br found out if it has not served its
purpose.
2. Quota if any to be provided then it should be based on socio-economic status and not on caste.
3. Quota should also be provided to weaker section of upper caste on basis of same % on which they are offering to other people.
4. A fresh population survey to determine weaker socio-economic people and the criteria of such basis to be determined. (you can also refer to census of 1999 for population and page 3 of The Times of India of 22.05.06 for dropouts to see actually how many reserved category reaches higher education level. Census should be done to determine number of general and reserved category people who reaches higher education level)
5. Law already passed by Supreme court that who apply through quota should be adjusted against quota only.
6. If qouta seats remain vacant then they should be filled from general people on merit basis and should not be wasted.
7. Quota in Parliament if they really want to give quota : Because then general people supporting quota will also demand this and Govt. will get divided. (Govt. is very much divided on passing Women Reservation Bill)
8. MPs supporting quota should pledge that they and their family members should be treated by Quota Doctors only ( OR you people pledge that you will not treat such MPs and their family members.
9. Quota should not be continued be provided to people if any member of reserved families become well off like: Lalu Yadav, Sharad Yadav, IASs, IPSs, Doctors, Engineers, rich people etc.
10. MP who has called you desh-drohis and asked for prosecution should resign so that no one in future dare to do so. Also assert that all MPs still supporting reservation are desh-drohis because they have divided and are still widening the gap between people supporting this and who are against this.
11. 2 child norm: Reservation should be given only to those parents who are having max. 2 children. Because quota people in general have 8-10 children and thus they will always remain backward and this is not MISTAKE of general people who aor having 1-2 children.
12. Percentage and number BOTH should be maintained and seats to be increased before implementation of quota: Beacause otherwise in future MPs will again say that % to be maintained and thus General people will again stand to lose. What about new colleges and universities that will be set up in future? (Also refer to interviw given by directorof IIMs)
13. Future policy about phasing-out of qoata: If govt. at present is not setting a Review Committee then what’s guarantee about future.
14. Limited concesion in marks: Those from reserved category should be allowed only a limited conscession in marks in admission but no concession in passin like :5-10% as compared to general people. What has happened in the past should not happen again like: a person getting 6/600 becoming doctor, a person getiing 0 becoming engineer as told by directors of IITs, AIIMS etc.
15. Doctors to dispaly whether selected through quota: Life and body are very precious. So, people should be given a chance to decide whether they like to be performed by in-effecient people.
16. Start door-to-door campaign- WE ARE REALLY SHORT OF TIME.
A few more suggestions as a an Indian
1. ONLY you people are being harassed by Govt. because they see if they can suppress you then the movement will come to an end: You people should try to solicit support across the country by asking othet people also to observe strike. This will divide the pressure imposed by Govt.
- Ask BANK people to observe indifinte strike. If they can fight for Rs. 2000-3000 p.m. pension can’t they fight for OUR MOTHERLAND’s and their own children future. Hold meetings with the presidents of different associations.
- Similarly, meet presidents of other associations like: traders, railways, power co.s, water bodies, etc.
2. Try to solicit support of INDUSTRIALIST LOBBY (now Meira Kumar is threatening a law for reservation in Pvt. sector as well). Remember, if reservation gets implemented in education then it will also get implemented in Pvt. Sector. So, if they get convinced and support you, then nothing can save govt, from rolling this back.
- Some industrialists who are very strongly against this are: Rahul Bajaj, Nandan Nilekani, Azim Premji, Tushar Gandhi, Ratan Tata
- So, please meet them and presidents of associations like : FICCI, CII, ASSOCHAM etc.
- They can also come forward to counter Govt. by offers like: opening pvt. hospitals for you people. Also, they can provide you accomdation after you people leave hotels on ORDER by Govt. from where you can continue.
3. If you people really want to criticize then criticize entire govt. and not only Arjun Singh. Because seeing this some MPs might come in urs support.
4. Ask people if these MPs really represent us then how can it happen that 60% i.e., 70 crores people are against this and only 1 one MP is opposing reservation. This is not democracy. MPs are not representing us but serving their own interest.
5. At time of British also, we were divided kept quite and thus those handful of people rules for around 175 years. Is today also we will keep quite and allow these 543 people appointed by us to do whatever they want to and ruin OUR future.
6. Attack MPs by asking for that there should be some criteria for their selection also because these illeterate and criminal-backgrounded people cannot serve nation and us. (Even a conductor of DTC bus should be gradaute. No CS, CWA, CA, engineer etc can be of criminal background but what about these netas)
7. Appeal to new and defence doctors not to respond to govenrment’s order in the best interest of the society.
8. Legal cell: Have a legal cell which can give you instant advice on notices and steps taken by Govt.
9. Political party: (Justice maangne se nahin chheene se milta hai, maangne se sirf bheekh milti hai- you should have power to have justiceIf some of you people are really worried about reservation then why don’t some of you people come up with the idea of launching some political party because you people have got presene all over India and since you people are fighting for JUSTICE you will get support of all doctors and people favouring justice. You can also convince people because of yours all over India presence and rapport with Govt. OR you can threat Govt. by pledging that you and yours’ relatives & patients will support MPs who are anti-Reservation. Govt. is already losing Muslim votes so they can’t even afford to lose General people votes.
10. Strike: You can also call-off strike and go back to work BECAUSE Govt. can’t force you to see patients as well or you can even see less patinets by spending more time with some patients since yours profession very much depends on JUDGEMENT.
11. Live telecast of discussion with 543 MPs from parliament so that entire country can see and understand the logic of these politicians.
JAI HIND
VANDE MATRAM
“Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamare dil mein hai,
dekna hai zor kitna bazuey katil mein hai
waqt aane de, bata denge tujhe ae aasmaan,
hum abhi se kya bataaein kya humare dil mein hai”
“Kitne baazu kitne sar ginley dushman dhyaan se,
Harega tu har baazi jab hum laden jee-jaan se
Ao aa jaa o, netaon pe chha jao”.
“East or West, ability should be best”
Sir
I am a student of IIT, Kharagpur and completely support the ongoing protests against the government's current reservation policy. However, what really concerns me is the fact that the IIT-D students appealed to be allowed to kill themselves if the reservations are implemented.
While the steps taken by those students are really appreciable, they should be made realise that their life is too valuable. They should not kill themselves for such subtle reasons (With full respect for the anti reservation protests). Since we cannot expect anything from this government any more, I would request the friends and the parents of those students to please speak to them and refrain them from doing so. They should understand that they are some of the most brilliant minds of the country and a lot lies for them to do.
Rahul Dasgupta
IIT, Kharagpur
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